Comments on: Illegal Immigration – Some Questions http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/ At home drawing pictures of mountaintops Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:19:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: karl http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6346 karl Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:17:44 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6346 The immigration debate is over accept for the finger pointing. Seems foolish to argue that the Democrats derailed the bill in the senate when they are not the majority party. I guess this is the main repub strategy, set unrealistic goals and then blame someone else when they don't work. Again I wonder when the Kool-aid drinkers are going to see this. The immigration debate is over accept for the finger pointing. Seems foolish to argue that the Democrats derailed the bill in the senate when they are not the majority party.

I guess this is the main repub strategy, set unrealistic goals and then blame someone else when they don’t work. Again I wonder when the Kool-aid drinkers are going to see this.

]]> By: Sherman Hesse http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6339 Sherman Hesse Sun, 09 Apr 2006 03:28:07 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6339 Business interests wouldn't have people in their pocket the second they walked in the capitol! Business interests wouldn’t have people in their pocket the second they walked in the capitol!

]]> By: karl http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6337 karl Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:51:56 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6337 If you took the money out of politics you might get people who want to serve. I know congressman and senators are paid pretty well. Here in Colorado a state legislature makes around 35,000 a year for what is a part-time job. You wont get rich on these kind of salaries, but maybe that should be the point. Probably being idealistic, but I think that is the right of every liberal If you took the money out of politics you might get people who want to serve. I know congressman and senators are paid pretty well. Here in Colorado a state legislature makes around 35,000 a year for what is a part-time job. You wont get rich on these kind of salaries, but maybe that should be the point.

Probably being idealistic, but I think that is the right of every liberal

]]> By: Sherman Hesse http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6336 Sherman Hesse Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:46:30 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6336 A ballot measure for public financing here in Massachusetts was voted for, then when candidates gathered enough signatures, the legislature ignored the bill and went on like nothing had changed. It's an ugly business. A ballot measure for public financing here in Massachusetts was voted for, then when candidates gathered enough signatures, the legislature ignored the bill and went on like nothing had changed. It’s an ugly business.

]]> By: karl http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6329 karl Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:55:15 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6329 Money talks. Unless people are willing to get money out of politics, by publicly funding elections, I dont see the situation changing. Money talks. Unless people are willing to get money out of politics, by publicly funding elections, I dont see the situation changing.

]]> By: Sherman Hesse http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6326 Sherman Hesse Fri, 07 Apr 2006 04:27:09 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6326 Deregulation is supported by foolish voters for years, and the bank is in suddenly in charge. Business is spared at either one house of congress or the other, and by the end, by the time it's on the President's desk, the idea is so different, it's less than 2:1 odds on it actually making a difference compared with just extending the rules of the last one they passed. All this bullshit is about numbers, and that's what we hear the least about in an average news-going day. "There are no nations, there are no peoples"...only different currencies. Going down the path we're on now, that's becoming truer by the day. Deregulation is supported by foolish voters for years, and the bank is in suddenly in charge.

Business is spared at either one house of congress or the other, and by the end, by the time it’s on the President’s desk, the idea is so different, it’s less than 2:1 odds on it actually making a difference compared with just extending the rules of the last one they passed.

All this bullshit is about numbers, and that’s what we hear the least about in an average news-going day. “There are no nations, there are no peoples”…only different currencies.

Going down the path we’re on now, that’s becoming truer by the day.

]]> By: karl http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6325 karl Fri, 07 Apr 2006 03:56:33 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6325 The law is the law. unless of course you happen to be a republican. Going back to Oliver North and going forward to Bush and Cheney outing a covert agent, and illegally spying on US citizens, repubs do not seem to respect the law. Notice how their does not seem to be any penalty for hiring undocumented workers, but plenty of penalties for being an undocumented worker. Laws are for the lillte people The law is the law. unless of course you happen to be a republican. Going back to Oliver North and going forward to Bush and Cheney outing a covert agent, and illegally spying on US citizens, repubs do not seem to respect the law. Notice how their does not seem to be any penalty for hiring undocumented workers, but plenty of penalties for being an undocumented worker.

Laws are for the lillte people

]]> By: Sherman Hesse http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6324 Sherman Hesse Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:02:40 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6324 Burning Man is a world renown (sp?) event, and for many, the pinacle of one's life... That much LSD and subsequent happiness can do some strange things to the mind. Reports have confirmed that 65% of burning man veterans who fit into this category, even after finding themselves homeless for 4 straight years, insist that their experience was "all for the best". For me...if I'm going to get weird, there's got to be a band playing in front of me...otherwise, I'll grab the nearest knife and go hunting for the anti-christ...still dealing with court documents from the last time that happened. Right, you don't know Pedro?!?!?!? Martinez is his last name, and he's getting shelled in his first game of the season. The FISA law is the one Bush broke. It's clear that any time an American is to be surveiled, a warrant is needed. For special instances where national security is at stake, normal channels can be circumvented and the request can go straight to a FISA court that's unlikely to deny any request made. Bush skipped over the FISA court. Right, with the mountain of judges, lawyers and former REPUBLICAN cabinet members who have stepped up to call this program illegal - - - you're still not convinced? Burning Man is a world renown (sp?) event, and for many, the pinacle of one’s life…

That much LSD and subsequent happiness can do some strange things to the mind. Reports have confirmed that 65% of burning man veterans who fit into this category, even after finding themselves homeless for 4 straight years, insist that their experience was “all for the best”.

For me…if I’m going to get weird, there’s got to be a band playing in front of me…otherwise, I’ll grab the nearest knife and go hunting for the anti-christ…still dealing with court documents from the last time that happened.

Right, you don’t know Pedro?!?!?!? Martinez is his last name, and he’s getting shelled in his first game of the season.

The FISA law is the one Bush broke. It’s clear that any time an American is to be surveiled, a warrant is needed. For special instances where national security is at stake, normal channels can be circumvented and the request can go straight to a FISA court that’s unlikely to deny any request made. Bush skipped over the FISA court.

Right, with the mountain of judges, lawyers and former REPUBLICAN cabinet members who have stepped up to call this program illegal – - – you’re still not convinced?

]]> By: Right Thinker http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6323 Right Thinker Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:51:16 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6323 <i>Being from Nevada only means you’re a heathen!</i> That's also the state motto. <i>Right, “against the law” is a phrase that’s being phased out in Washington. Apply the “illegal” thought to Bush’s wiretapping, and it’s suddenly not that important.</i> For it to be illegal there has to be a law against it. War Powers Act covers most of it. Show me the law that says spying on foreign enemy combatants is illegal. <i>Anyone here a fan of Reno 911? I think it’s one of the best shows ever made, but nobody watches it. Right, tell me you’ve seen Reno…</i> I have seen it, a few of 'em anyway. The Burning Man episode was funny, but I doubt anyone outside Nevada got the joke. <i>Reminds me…how’d you like the ‘hiding our heads in the sand’ aspect of the recent South Park? </i> Haven't seen that one. <i>The episode reminded me of what you’ve been saying about the Muhammad cartoon…the inside joke here, I think, is that South Park used Muhammad in an episode a couple years before this whole thing w/ the cartoon got big.</i> Yeah, the I don't believe the cartoon was ever the issue, rather, Islam sees the chance now to seize upon the fear they've fought to instill in the world and stoke the fire to keep it alive. Liberals are either very scared of Islam or very stupid. I hope it's fear. <i>Pedro is on TV…now that he’s a Met, I only get to see a quarter (at most) of his starts…brings a tear to my eye. </i> You've lost me on this one. I imagine this is a sports reference, which is my weak point. Being from Nevada only means you’re a heathen!

That’s also the state motto.

Right, “against the law” is a phrase that’s being phased out in Washington. Apply the “illegal” thought to Bush’s wiretapping, and it’s suddenly not that important.

For it to be illegal there has to be a law against it. War Powers Act covers most of it. Show me the law that says spying on foreign enemy combatants is illegal.

Anyone here a fan of Reno 911? I think it’s one of the best shows ever made, but nobody watches it. Right, tell me you’ve seen Reno…

I have seen it, a few of ‘em anyway. The Burning Man episode was funny, but I doubt anyone outside Nevada got the joke.

Reminds me…how’d you like the ‘hiding our heads in the sand’ aspect of the recent South Park?

Haven’t seen that one.

The episode reminded me of what you’ve been saying about the Muhammad cartoon…the inside joke here, I think, is that South Park used Muhammad in an episode a couple years before this whole thing w/ the cartoon got big.

Yeah, the I don’t believe the cartoon was ever the issue, rather, Islam sees the chance now to seize upon the fear they’ve fought to instill in the world and stoke the fire to keep it alive. Liberals are either very scared of Islam or very stupid. I hope it’s fear.

Pedro is on TV…now that he’s a Met, I only get to see a quarter (at most) of his starts…brings a tear to my eye.

You’ve lost me on this one. I imagine this is a sports reference, which is my weak point.

]]> By: Sherman Hesse http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-6322 Sherman Hesse Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:11:44 +0000 http://deadissue.com/archives/2006/03/22/illegal-immigration-some-questions/#comment-6322 Being from Nevada only means you're a heathen! Right, "against the law" is a phrase that's being phased out in Washington. Apply the "illegal" thought to Bush's wiretapping, and it's suddenly not that important. Anyone here a fan of Reno 911? I think it's one of the best shows ever made, but nobody watches it. Right, tell me you've seen Reno... Reminds me...how'd you like the 'hiding our heads in the sand' aspect of the recent South Park? The episode reminded me of what you've been saying about the Muhammad cartoon...the inside joke here, I think, is that South Park used Muhammad in an episode a couple years before this whole thing w/ the cartoon got big. Pedro is on TV...now that he's a Met, I only get to see a quarter (at most) of his starts...brings a tear to my eye. Being from Nevada only means you’re a heathen!

Right, “against the law” is a phrase that’s being phased out in Washington. Apply the “illegal” thought to Bush’s wiretapping, and it’s suddenly not that important.

Anyone here a fan of Reno 911? I think it’s one of the best shows ever made, but nobody watches it. Right, tell me you’ve seen Reno…

Reminds me…how’d you like the ‘hiding our heads in the sand’ aspect of the recent South Park? The episode reminded me of what you’ve been saying about the Muhammad cartoon…the inside joke here, I think, is that South Park used Muhammad in an episode a couple years before this whole thing w/ the cartoon got big.

Pedro is on TV…now that he’s a Met, I only get to see a quarter (at most) of his starts…brings a tear to my eye.

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