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		<title>By: ray lane</title>
		<link>http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2009/02/10/octuplets-are-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-24047</link>
		<dc:creator>ray lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i feel like she should have mental exaime to see if she is fit to take care of 14 kids what i have seen its not stable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i feel like she should have mental exaime to see if she is fit to take care of 14 kids what i have seen its not stable</p>
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		<title>By: John Rove</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Rove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t usually have eugenic fantasies but I would like to see policies that encourage people to stop at maybe one or two children. Plus free vasectemies to anyone who wants one and easy and affordable birth contro for all. 

I agree that government policies policies can have a bad effect, although I would argue that some of the worst policies are in response to the overpopulation situation no one wants to talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t usually have eugenic fantasies but I would like to see policies that encourage people to stop at maybe one or two children. Plus free vasectemies to anyone who wants one and easy and affordable birth contro for all. </p>
<p>I agree that government policies policies can have a bad effect, although I would argue that some of the worst policies are in response to the overpopulation situation no one wants to talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: caveat bettor</title>
		<link>http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2009/02/10/octuplets-are-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-24006</link>
		<dc:creator>caveat bettor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR, the prices for resources increase with greater demand and lesser supply.  That regulates consumption.  Gasoline demand turned out to be a whole lot more elastic than most economists thought when crude cracked $100/bbl.

Of course, the government could distort the price mechanism, for example, in artificially inflating home prices with easy monetary policy, irresponsible lending incentives, conflicted rating agencies, and a mortgage workout plan.

Oh, you might be right.  But lets reduce government first, before indulging any eugenic fantasies, ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR, the prices for resources increase with greater demand and lesser supply.  That regulates consumption.  Gasoline demand turned out to be a whole lot more elastic than most economists thought when crude cracked $100/bbl.</p>
<p>Of course, the government could distort the price mechanism, for example, in artificially inflating home prices with easy monetary policy, irresponsible lending incentives, conflicted rating agencies, and a mortgage workout plan.</p>
<p>Oh, you might be right.  But lets reduce government first, before indulging any eugenic fantasies, ok?</p>
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		<title>By: John Rove</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Rove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each additional person puts more pressure on limited resources driving the price up more and using up more of the supply.  At some point additional people stop paying for themselves.  Many countries are already at that point and the US is getting close to that point.

If the US had a third less people we would not be dependant on petroleum based farming(that is petroleum based fertelizer and long supply chains) to feed our population.  We also could supply electricity in more earth friendly manners.  As it is now we can barely supply enough energy to keep up with the needs of a growing population and that means making good choices like solar and wind but also probably trying unproven and expensive sources like nuclear energy.

The reason that we are running out of good choices is that we have too many people and they are stressing out the entire system.  We need the ad council to start making ads about the problems of big families.  Then again maybe not, the anti-smoking ads produced by the ad council make me want to smoke, who knows what anti-procreation ads would make people want to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each additional person puts more pressure on limited resources driving the price up more and using up more of the supply.  At some point additional people stop paying for themselves.  Many countries are already at that point and the US is getting close to that point.</p>
<p>If the US had a third less people we would not be dependant on petroleum based farming(that is petroleum based fertelizer and long supply chains) to feed our population.  We also could supply electricity in more earth friendly manners.  As it is now we can barely supply enough energy to keep up with the needs of a growing population and that means making good choices like solar and wind but also probably trying unproven and expensive sources like nuclear energy.</p>
<p>The reason that we are running out of good choices is that we have too many people and they are stressing out the entire system.  We need the ad council to start making ads about the problems of big families.  Then again maybe not, the anti-smoking ads produced by the ad council make me want to smoke, who knows what anti-procreation ads would make people want to do.</p>
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		<title>By: caveat bettor</title>
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		<dc:creator>caveat bettor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR, the damage to the environment and non-renewable consumption are included in the costs.  Thomas Malthus was wrong, and so was Paul Ehrlich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR, the damage to the environment and non-renewable consumption are included in the costs.  Thomas Malthus was wrong, and so was Paul Ehrlich.</p>
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		<title>By: John Rove</title>
		<link>http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2009/02/10/octuplets-are-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-24003</link>
		<dc:creator>John Rove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to look at the damage each person does to the enviroment plus the amount of non renewable resources they consume.  

At some point we wont be able to feed the ever growing population not to mention the fact that too many people use up resources and make the world a less enjoyable place to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to look at the damage each person does to the enviroment plus the amount of non renewable resources they consume.  </p>
<p>At some point we wont be able to feed the ever growing population not to mention the fact that too many people use up resources and make the world a less enjoyable place to live.</p>
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		<title>By: caveat bettor</title>
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		<dc:creator>caveat bettor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people cost $2 million in their lifetime but produce $2.5 million, then I&#039;d say we should have more of them, not less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people cost $2 million in their lifetime but produce $2.5 million, then I&#8217;d say we should have more of them, not less.</p>
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		<title>By: John Rove</title>
		<link>http://www.deadissue.com/archives/2009/02/10/octuplets-are-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-23998</link>
		<dc:creator>John Rove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other question might be &quot;where do all the old people come from?&quot;. 

Any way you look at it people are expensive and it is foolish to keep encouraging people to have more of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other question might be &#8220;where do all the old people come from?&#8221;. </p>
<p>Any way you look at it people are expensive and it is foolish to keep encouraging people to have more of them.</p>
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		<title>By: caveat bettor</title>
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		<dc:creator>caveat bettor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR: Most of medical expenditure is spent in the last 6 months of individuals&#039; lives.  The government subsidies come from productive workers who pay taxes--who are not in the last 6 months of their lives.  Where do those payees come from?

This is simpler than simple math.  Why the resistance to the facts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR: Most of medical expenditure is spent in the last 6 months of individuals&#8217; lives.  The government subsidies come from productive workers who pay taxes&#8211;who are not in the last 6 months of their lives.  Where do those payees come from?</p>
<p>This is simpler than simple math.  Why the resistance to the facts?</p>
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		<title>By: John Rove</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Rove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey CB:
Part of the reason the social safety net is so stressed is that people are hav ing lots of kids and these kids are expensive in terms of medical care and social costs. Of Sarah Palins five kids are any of them a benefit to society? 

The idea that we need to produce people to pay into social security doesn&#039;t make much sense, if the US finds itself with a shortage of people we can allow more immigration. The world is not in danger of running out of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey CB:<br />
Part of the reason the social safety net is so stressed is that people are hav ing lots of kids and these kids are expensive in terms of medical care and social costs. Of Sarah Palins five kids are any of them a benefit to society? </p>
<p>The idea that we need to produce people to pay into social security doesn&#8217;t make much sense, if the US finds itself with a shortage of people we can allow more immigration. The world is not in danger of running out of people.</p>
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